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Posted Oct. 12, 2010 by kimaz22 in Open

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commented on Dec. 21, 2010
by workinprogress



The first thing that came to my mind when i found the excistence of noetic science yesterday was Energy and it's affect on love/chemistry between people. Chemistry is physics on a further level. if you cut down biology or chemistry you always end up in physics. you take gold and cut it down into its pieces you have atoms. you cut down a plant or a human being to its first state you have atoms. atoms are energy. so people that have chemistry must have somehow the perfect set of atoms that matches with one another to make the perfect balance of energy. i would be interested if it would be possible to test that energy level somehow. as i am only 22 and not an expert or even close to that on any of this i am asking for advice if you could measure that somehow. Getting random people together completely naked without outside distraction like perfume or voice. they should hug each other one at a time while measuring their energy activity. afterwards you would take the measurement results and match them with the results of the other ones and also what peoples own opinion was who they felt most comfortable with. Again i am not a scientist only a 22 year old normal german girl (thats why my english isnt perfect) whose brain is on overload for the last day searching for answers

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    gerabene Oct 17, 2010

    How can energy measure energy?

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    lifenergy Oct 14, 2010

    Interesting concept, I have been involved in subtle energy research for some time, it is a really fascinating subject. There is equipment available that reveals the human energy field in fine detail. In one experiment when two people approached each other the field expands as if in greeting before they meet. Also blockages show up in the normal flow of the field which relates directly to disease or injury also it seems before a disease occurs.

  • Gwing1988 Oct 13, 2010

    In the same sense you could also say that the world is the experiment because most people are walking around senseless anyway.

  • frequencytuner Oct 13, 2010

    I am quoting you Gwing:
    "So we are now looking at a pitch dark, sound proof, energy neutral environment with a bunch of naked people with earplugs in and plugs up their noses. Sounds ridiculous when I put it like that but that would essentially be the ideal for this experiment. The you could go so far as to set the people up in a grid pattern. Leaving these people with nothing but their internal energies to guide them after a certain amount of time I would believe that in time the energy responses in their own bodies would cause them to gravitate towards certain people. I would be interested to see how that would turn out."

    I would say it took about 2 days for you. This thread IS the experiment, don't you see?

  • Gwing1988 Oct 13, 2010

    @ Frequencytuner I just heard about Noetic Science no more than two days ago. As for the sharing of my experiences, I try to share things like this with people around me but most are too addicted to the "Mind Candy" to see what is really going on. So in a sense you are both correct and incorrect.

  • frequencytuner Oct 13, 2010

    Gwing1988 I doubt you are new to this field.

    Would it be fair to say you are new to sharing your experiences and wisdom with others who harmonize with you?

    This thread, kimazz22, is an excellent experiment. Do you see how the energy is attracting?

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    kimaz22 Oct 12, 2010

    Thank you for charing this with us *frequencytuner*. I was mistaken. mankind would have developed the way it has anyway but the revolutionarys have understood the balance.

    @ Gwing: I feel with you. I all of the sudden see a purpose in life i didnt see before. I was unmotivated and now i am studying 24 hours a day trying to come to a deeper understanding

  • Gwing1988 Oct 12, 2010

    Had to break it up it was too many characters. Ha

    So we are now looking at a pitch dark, sound proof, energy neutral environment with a bunch of naked people with earplugs in and plugs up their noses. Sounds ridiculous when I put it like that but that would essentially be the ideal for this experiment. The you could go so far as to set the people up in a grid pattern. Leaving these people with nothing but their internal energies to guide them after a certain amount of time I would believe that in time the energy responses in their own bodies would cause them to gravitate towards certain people. I would be interested to see how that would turn out. Having that be the ultimate control experiment you could then go on to see their reactions if you electrified the air at certain frequencies. For example what would happen if you introduced a frequency at the golden ratio ( 1.61803399...).

    At that note I will end this, my first comment on this site. I have had these thoughts all my life and I feel 100% better now that I have found like minded people.

  • Gwing1988 Oct 12, 2010

    To all that have spoken here I would like to thank you. I feel that I have honestly found a niche in this field. In regards to Kimaz22 I am 22 as well and just now finding out about this. These theories are not only what I have felt and thought my whole life but also add more depth and explanation to the things I have already figured out for myself. What I have notice though is that the actions of man tend to move in a cyclical pattern when our discoveries are concerned. Throughout history man has "rediscovered" the same theories of his predecessors claiming them as some new age thought when really they are simply restating things already collected in the unified consciousness in attempts to relating it to the modern world. Now I use the term unified because I don't believe that a person can truly tap into those thoughts unless they discover their own unified self or oneself that connects us all but then that brings into string theory which is one of those previously mentioned reoccurring theories.

    My apologies for diverting from the original topic of this particular thread. As I have mentioned before I am new to this field in that It was recently brought to my attention. What drew me to this thread is that energy has been a substantial part of my life. In that, I feel that if a person can tap into their own energies, the ones we natural emit, then the potential for their uses are limitless. Throughout my currently short life I have found ways in myself to manipulate my own energies inside of me, triggering the electrical and thus chemical actions and reactions of nerves and synapses. There is so much energy in the human body through the kinetics in our blood-flow, our nerves, our minds, even out body heat. In regards to your proposed experiment I believe that it would be interesting to see the connection that might form between people based strictly off of energy. To make the results even more finite you would have to eliminate nearly all other senses of the personnel. This is only because it has been shown that situations such as a visual mental imprint or the immune systems affect on a persons scent can cause attraction between people.

  • frequencytuner Oct 12, 2010

    Gailieo Gailiei: "It is surely harmful to souls to make it a heresy to believe what is proved". "We cannot teach people anything; we can only help them discover it within themselves".

    Leonardo Da Vinci: "I have offended God and mankind because my work didn't reach the quality it should have". "It had long since come to my attention that people of accomplishment rarely sat back and let things happen to them. They went out and happened to things". "Water is the driving force of all nature". "Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art". "Who sows virtue reaps honor".

    Nikola Tesla: "Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine". "Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more". "In no way can we get such an overwhelming idea of the grandeur of Nature than when we consider, that in accordance with the law of the conservation of energy, throughout the Infinite, the forces are in a perfect balance, and hence the energy of a single thought may determine the motion of a universe". "The individual is ephemeral, races and nations come and pass away, but man remains. Therein lies the profound difference between the individual and the whole". "When a child is born its sense-organs are brought in contact with the outer world. The waves of sound, heat, and light beat upon its feeble body, its sensitive nerve-fibres quiver, the muscles contract and relax in obedience: a gasp, a breath, and in this act a marvelous little engine, of inconceivable delicacy and complexity of construction, unlike any on earth, is hitched to the wheel-work of the Universe."

    Carl Jung: "Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes". "As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being". "If one does not understand a person, one tends to regard him as a fool". "In all chaos there is a cosmos, in all disorder a secret order". "It all depends on how we look at things, and not how they are in themselves". "The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed". "The pendulum of the mind alternates between sense and nonsense, not between right and wrong". "Through pride we are ever deceiving ourselves. But deep down below the surface of the average conscience a still, small voice says to us, something is out of tune". "We cannot change anything until we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses". "Who has fully realized that history is not contained in thick books but lives in our very blood?" "The greatest danger to mankind is man himself."

  • frequencytuner Oct 12, 2010

    I am speechless. All I can do is quote...

    Pythagoras: "As long as man continues to be the ruthless destroyer of lower living beings he will never know health or peace. For as long as
    men massacre animals, they will kill each other".

    Rudolf Steiner: "All of nature begins to whisper its secrets to us through its sounds. Sounds that were previously incomprehensible to our soul now become the meaningful language of nature".

    Henri Poincare: "It is the harmony of the diverse parts, their symmetry, their happy balance; in a word it is all that introduces order, all that gives unity, that permits us to see clearly and to comprehend at once both the ensemble and the details". "It is through science that we prove, but through intuition that we discover". "One would have to have completely forgotten the history of science so as to not remember that the desire to know nature has had the most constant and the happiest influence on the development of mathematics".
    Einstein: "It is every man's obligation to put back into the world at least the equivalent of what he takes out of it". "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". "Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts". "He who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead; his eyes are closed". "I want to know all Gods thoughts; all the rest are just details". "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity". "It should be possible to explain the laws of physics to a barmaid". "Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better". "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted". "Only one who devotes himself to a cause with his whole strength and soul can be a true master. For this reason mastery demands all of a person". "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former". "Our task must be to free ourselves by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty". "Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding". "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind".

  • frequencytuner Oct 12, 2010

    Wow..I'll need to take some time to saturate all that. Amazing.

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    kimaz22 Oct 12, 2010

    Would it have made a difference if Telsa had agreed with Edison? yes it would have....
    Would the outcome had been worse than it is now.... not sure about that.
    Maybe the world would be in a greater balance. is alternating current power assential to us as human beings? i dont think so. Does it give us a greater understanding of the worlds energy....our enviroment? i dont think so either....
    Does it distract us and leads us away from the path we should be walking on.... Rather likely.
    Who are the people that understand the energy of the world most? Arent it those people who try to stay away from modern developments?

    I agree with you that my age does not matter but whatever any revolutionary developed and thought about didn't necessary have a positive impact on our excistence. If you think about it from a very neutral and objective perspective alternating current power is indeed useless and crazy. maybe not anymore because we are used to it but it doesnt have an essential use for the human being to excist and survive. it only interferce with the balance of energy. To refer to noetic sience it shouldnt be Telsa or Galileo you should call revolutionarys. You should refer to nature folks that always understood the worlds balance of energy, respected it and devoted their lifes to work on a perfect level with it. Everything unnatural mankind developed drove us away from perfection. Our eyes are open but our minds are distracted. The eye can't really see without the mind.

  • frequencytuner Oct 12, 2010

    Please Kimazz22, do not refer to your-'self' as merely a 22 year old German girl. Thank you for this opportunity: "You" sound like the child who tripped over the elder's foot. As energy never dies - only changes phases and states - chronological "age" means nothing. Would it matter if I was an old man or a 13 year old boy if I told you I thought the universe is purely energy and harmonic interactions between 2 polar opposites? What if I told you I agreed with you because I also think that energy patterns resonate together - like attracts like. Would it matter if I was a quantum physicist, Hindu Guru or an unemployed pot-head sitting in an internet cafe? Modesty is an admirable trait, but also detrimental.

    What if Nikola Tesla had agreed with Thomas Edison that his ideas for Alternating Current power, Radio, Radar, Laser, Turbine engines, internet, electric cars, holograms, wireless energy etc..were useless and crazy?? What would the world look like if Tesla agreed with Edison? How about Gailieo? How about Descartes? Carl Jung? Niels Bohr? Da Vinci? Jesus Christ? Every revolutionary was - at first - rejected by his own. I know you know why: this is your experiment. The research material is right here on this discussion board.

  • Phoenix Oct 12, 2010

    I think that is remarkable, I have never thought about human relationship chemistry in that context but it makes so much sense. Like magnetism haha Definitely would be hearing more about that experiment/research.

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