What are the biggest mysteries of human consciousness?

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What are the biggest mysteries of human consciousness?

The phenomenon of human consciousness – where it comes from, how it works – has intrigued philosophers for millennia, and in recent decades scientists have joined the exploration. Neuroscience has revealed much about the inner workings of the brain, but has had little to say about why and how consciousness works. How can our material brain give rise to subjective experience? Not to mention extraordinary occurrences of afterlife communication, predictions of the future, the healing power of thought, intuition, synchronicities, and many others. We are just beginning to tap into the vastness of what we don’t know.

What do you think are the biggest mysteries of consciousness?



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    Imagination Jan 26, 2015

    What are the biggest mysteries of human consciousness? At this moment in time (2015), there is a sorting out process as to how to define sports concussions/repeated sports concussions and fit those neurological challenges within the frameworks of ADHD and epilepsy. There is a lot of excellent information about human consciousness which is systematically suppressed by some business trade guilds because the truth tends to put some of those businesses out of business (my view) the same way the automobile put the horse businesses out of business (my view). Some of the mechanisms behind mental visualization/sensory integration are being looked at and some partial answers are being found. X-ref: constructional apraxia, dyspraxia, cerebellar cognitive affective syndrome, etc.

  • NoetPoet Oct 11, 2014

    "The Enlightened Past"?! Where is the evidence for this "Enlightened Past"?? And how do you go from merely ASSERTING such a past to saying that it is a "fact" that our ancestors were more accomplished than us??

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    dustproduction Oct 11, 2014

    (does this commenter actually think their statement sums up sciences view of anything?)

    A fair response to the comment, "BUT THAT'S ONLY THE CONVENTIONAL SCIENTIFIC THINKING" would be to suggest reading "War of Worldviews."

    "War of the Worldviews covers cosmology, life and evolution, the mind and brain, and God. Throughout, Chopra advocates his own brand of spirituality, a worldview in which the universe is an evolving consciousness. He states that “to arrive at DNA, life on Earth, and the human mind, the universe was self-aware and could understand what it was doing.” He also suggests that by going deeply into your own awareness, you will find a special place where the consciousness of the universe will be “drawn to your side.” Mlodinow, the spokesman for science and a deflationary critic of Chopra’s work, does an expert job of responding to Chopra’s expansive claims with the scientific perspective. He points out that “to gain acceptance in science [an] idea must have testable implications, and this concept of universal consciousness doesn’t seem to.”

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    ScientificZephyr Oct 11, 2014

    The most mysterious thing is the ability of Human to (think_devise_think again and again_and then make a belief of that thought).Only due to this reason humans have been able to make the communities (sharing collective thoughts) and to progress (evolution) both mentally and Physically.


    If we take the concept of 'The Enlightened Past' then we have to consider the fact that "our ancestors were more accomplished than us".Then it leaves us with two options.

    =>Either we are depreciating in our Intelligence or Control of our mind (PESSIMIST thought)
    i.e. As we obsess ourselves with FACTS AND PROOFS(orthodox science) we lose our control on spiritual part of our mind which might act SUPERNATURALLY, due to this reason we continue to progress in 'science and technology' gradually losing our ability of unimaginable power we have, which would have been imaginable in the past, which is because of the fact that, human in the past have strong belief in spiritual consciousness.

    =>Or its just a cyclic process (OPTIMIST thought)
    i.e Human kind achieve certain level of 'enlightenment or consciousness' then due some disaster or the creation of some certain flaw in culture, causes the community to depreciate to the lowest level of consciousness.Then naturally there arise certain collective consciousness which makes mankind to progress again or RE-SEARCH the 'hidden and lost consciousness'.

    Both of these option are understandable and seems true to some extent

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    dustproduction Oct 04, 2014

    Brain imaging pioneer Nancy Kanwisher, who uses fMRI scans to see activity in brain regions (often her own), shares what she and her colleagues have learned: The brain is made up of both highly specialized components and general-purpose "machinery." Another surprise: There's so much left to learn.


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    dustproduction Sep 24, 2014

    I'm commenting again because I do not what this thought getting lost in the milieu. I welcome any and all to register any disagreement with my previous comment.

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    dustproduction Sep 22, 2014

    The biggest mystery remains how consciousness is produced by the brain.
    Those that disagree with this statement know little of nothing about biology and even less about the brain.

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    Jim Centi Sep 22, 2014

    After reading my last comment I realize that it is not something I would write;. It contains stupid comments, is convoluted and is simply not my writing style.

    I’m going to take a break for a while and try to determine what happened.

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    Jim Centi Sep 21, 2014


    Science has acknowledged the existence of different realities or different levels or reality. I have generally considered them to be distinct and separate, but am now leaning toward the impression that there is some subtle interaction occurring between or among them.

    Since you and I may be representations this interaction, perhaps this would be reinforced it we referred to each other by two or more names.

    For example, you could address me by my first name, full name or initials.

    Since I sense that you have at least one PhD, I could address you by your screen name, Dr. or DR.

    This may sound simplistic, but it does somewhat support the idea that we are not fixed entities in space and time.

    On one level, I am an old man with several ailments that could result in my departure from this strange planet at any time, possibly by choice.

    On another level, I may be something in the process of merging with the other or others. You also may also be in the process of such a merger without the necessity of either of us abandoning our physical existence.

    I do not mean to be evasive of your comment, but must admit that it is evident to me that your analytical skills or tendencies are more developed than mine. I am simply offering another possibility in addition to what you have offered.

    Providing somewhat of a response to your comment, it could be said that I have accepted the self as illusion, it could also be said that I have accepted the human self as illusion.

    If it is not simply imagination that I may be in the early stages of merger with the other, there are occasions when the experience of a self other than the human self seems to enter awareness.

    If we are an expression of the interaction of realities, contradictions should be expected.

    There may be occasions when I respond to you quickly and other occasions when, due to a variety of factors, you may experience a delayed response.

  • NoetPoet Sep 21, 2014

    "Third and fourth bits of information were extracted from the book “Living with a Wild God” which builds a strong case that mystical experiences are a form of telepathic communication from a not clearly conceptualized “other or others” whose physical manifestations are UFO’s. Also, the book strongly supports that the human reality is generated by this “other or others”."

    You have already accepted that the self is an illusion. I think the self is to the brain particularly (and the human organism more generally) what an operating system like Windows is to a computer, except that the self 'program' evolves rather than being downloaded. So if we can accept that the self is an illusion, why wouldn't these "others" also be illusions? In other words, it would make more sense to consider them as programs which interface with the operating system that we call the self, the purpose of which is to allow the brain to think and perceive in ways that the self's programming would not allow because of ingrained habits of perception. If we take this line of thinking, then it is true that reality is generated by "others" to the extent that these "others" are merely *psychological representations* of aspects of wider reality that we generally ignore.

    "If you can drop your argumentative style, I’m open to a little chatting."

    I'm not being argumentative, I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation.

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    Jim Centi Sep 20, 2014


    I’ll open up a bit relative to how our experiences of reality seem to differ.

    Aside from the advice of mystics that abandonment of the personal self is the path to true liberation, in more recent times there has been the appreciation of a few bits of information that resonate with the advice of the mystics and shape my current experience of reality.

    You should be pleased to know that one bit was posted by you on March 27 when you seemed to momentarily step aside from the argumentative style you generally exhibit. It is re posted below.

    “I think something that both believers and non-believers tend to overlook is that humans are not truth machines: we have not evolved to be able to fully understand and face reality. Rather, our evolution has conditioned us to be able to know things and hold beliefs that maximise our chances of survival and procreation. Put another way, humans are biologically predisposed toward adopting "expedient truths".”

    A second bit of information was generated by the discovery of Neuroscience that the human experience of a personal self; along with its experience of freewill are both illusions. On at least one occasion humans were referred to as biological robots.

    Third and fourth bits of information were extracted from the book “Living with a Wild God” which builds a strong case that mystical experiences are a form of telepathic communication from a not clearly conceptualized “other or others” whose physical manifestations are UFO’s. Also, the book strongly supports that the human reality is generated by this “other or others”.

    What I have characterized in another topic as my experience as a UFO researcher was really personal relationships with individuals who were working on some level to disseminate both information and disinformation relative to UFO’s. Two of these individuals are former publishers of UFO magazine, who had been to my home and I to theirs on several occasions.

    What I learned from these relationships was to distinguish between the wheat and the chaff relative to UFO information.

    A popular belief among UFO enthusiasts is that someday the truth about UFO’s will be released by our government; this is not how it’s going to happen.

    What is happening is that the truth about UFO’s is being released slowly only to selected groups of individuals in order to avoid the wide spread shattering of deeply held conceptualizations of reality and avoid possible panic.

    The book mentioned above is an example of the release of wheat and even it is somewhat camouflaged in a novel about a journal kept by a young girl.

    I consider my current experience of reality to be rather pleasant and am exposing it a bit only because I respect the side of you that authored the March 27th post and there doesn't seem to be much time left for me to be seriously viewed as a self promoting egocentric.

    If you can drop your argumentative style, I’m open to a little chatting.

  • NoetPoet Sep 20, 2014


    "To me, deep introspection is similar to the meditative state, where the thinking process is transcended and insights or realizations appear with no volition on the part if the individual and they appear as a form of direct knowing that is not vulnerable to conceptual analysis. If you can experience such a state in imagination, you should note that there is no expression of logic or consideration of evidence."

    Conscious deliberate thinking may be transcended, but that does not mean that there is no cognitive processing going on. Indeed, the power of these states of "deep introspection" may be precisely in the fact that they involve getting the conscious deliberating part of the mind out of the way so that the brain can process information more efficiently and holistically. The downside of this state would be that you can't really direct your mind to think about particular things, and it may also be the case that your mind is more likely to get carried away with speculation because one's critical thinking faculties have been temporarily subdued.

    I would however content that these instances of "direct knowing" not only present themselves to one's conscious mind as a set of concepts, but that they ARE in fact subject to conceptual analysis *after* the fact. You can have all the instances of "direct knowing" that you like, but inevitably those 'knowings' are going to have to be compared to the real world to see if they are accurate reflections of reality, and that requires assessment based on logic and evidence.

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    dustproduction Sep 18, 2014

    It also occurs to me that "altered states of mind" seems to support the ideas that the consciousness emerges from brain since altering the chemistry of the brain, or specific components of the brain changes consciousness.
    If others disagree with this they might attempt to support or describe how chemicals can alter a consciousness that resides outside of the body?

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    dustproduction Sep 18, 2014

    What are "altered states of consciousness" decides "altered state of mind?"
    What becomes altered?
    When one looks at "split brains," where the corpus callosum is severed there is true altered consciousness.

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    Jim Centi Sep 18, 2014


    My previous comment represents a deviation from the comments usually posted; perhaps a bit of background would be appropriate.

    In another topic I indicated that I was an explorer of altered states of consciousness, this has been my passion for over fifty years. .

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    Jim Centi Sep 17, 2014


    Introspection can mean different things to different individuals.

    After exploring the various definitions of introspection, I realize now that what I refer to as deep introspection differs from the popular definitions of that term.

    To me, deep introspection is similar to the meditative state, where the thinking process is transcended and insights or realizations appear with no volition on the part if the individual and they appear as a form of direct knowing that is not vulnerable to conceptual analysis.

    If you can experience such a state in imagination, you should note that there is no expression of logic or consideration of evidence.

    I would find it difficult to explain the difference between my experience of deep introspection and meditation, except to say that when I meditate there is an extremely subtle inclination to abandon the human sense of self.

    I accept the responsibility for not elaborating on this in my previous comment and admit that I was motivated to respond in that manner due to our initial pattern of responding to each other with short comments.

  • NoetPoet Sep 17, 2014


    I see no reason why evidence and logic would *not* be valid

  • NoetPoet Sep 17, 2014

    “From a deep level of introspection, evidence and logic are resources of the outside world.”

    So then what are the “resources” of introspection? And what can you possibly find through introspection which doesn’t in some way originate from the “outside” world? The dichotomy between “outside world” and “inside world” is a false dichotomy: the reality is that we are made of and by the ”outside” world; we are an inalienable part of the “outside” world, both ‘mentally’ and ‘physically.’ As such I see no reason why evidence and logic would be valid – indeed, necessary – resources of introspection. The only real difference is the subject matter to which those tools are applied. My thread “Intuition as a way of knowing: a realistic appraisal” (http://noetic.org/discussions/open/559/ ) contains information relevant to this topic.

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    dustproduction Sep 17, 2014

    At least my comment addressed the material under consideration.
    Having looked it over, and read some of the chapters, I find little here that is new, just a version of a belief system. The chapter on memory investigates only a limited amount of research, and ignores a great deal of other research. Because of this the finding and conclusions about memory offer an incomplete theory at best, in other words there is no "proof."
    The same is true of the section on reincarnarnation

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    dustproduction Sep 17, 2014

    At least me comment address the material under consideration.

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    Jim Centi Sep 17, 2014


    From a deep level of introspection, evidence and logic are resources of the outside world.

  • NoetPoet Sep 16, 2014


    "One side of the thorn, represented primarily by the two of you, places supreme value in the ultimate authority of academic sources existing in the outside world"

    No, we place value on evidence and logic.

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    Jim Centi Sep 16, 2014

    Perhaps unknowingly, the responses from you two lays bare the thorn in the side of Discussions that ultimately leads to flare-ups.

    One side of the thorn, represented primarily by the two of you, places supreme value in the ultimate authority of academic sources existing in the outside world.

    The other side of the thorn considers the inner world, assessable through introspection, to be closer to the source of what this theater of human existence is all about.

    We must admit that both sides are vulnerable to flaws. The flaws emanating from each side are revealed when we stand back from and objectively view the insanity being expressed in the world.

    I really don’t see a victory by either side as a solution to the chaos in either Discussions or in our world.

    The solution I would propose would be deeper levels of introspection. Of course, this would not be in agreement with your offers of an ultimate solution.

    I believe that our brief exchange has accomplished something and that is about as far as we can go without going off on tangents that further obscure the intent of this topic.

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    dustproduction Sep 16, 2014

    Peer review "constitutes a form of self-regulation by qualified members of a profession within the relevant field. Peer review methods are employed to maintain standards of quality, improve performance, and provide credibility."
    Since the website made the statement, but did not provide access to it, I asked if it was available.

  • NoetPoet Sep 16, 2014


    Considering the document in question relies heavily on "outside" sources, it is entirely appropriate for Dustproduction to make such a request. It is even more appropriate when you consider how easily "introspection" can lead to distorted thinking if it is not compared with information from the "outside" world.

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    Jim Centi Sep 16, 2014


    There are occasions when the value of something can be determined by a bit of introspection, without relying on outside sources to confirm your reaction or how it makes you feel.

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    dustproduction Sep 16, 2014

    Also, are you presenting this work as theory, belief, or as factual?

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    dustproduction Sep 16, 2014


    Your website says, "The major ideas of this book have been published in various peer reviewed journals and conferences. The book integrates them in a coherent way for everybody to read and understand."

    Are there any papers that are published online for us to read? I would like to consider what "peer review has occurred.

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    subhendu Sep 16, 2014

    I will appreciate your thoughts on the book of Soul Theory at - http://theoryofsouls.wordpress.com/

    Some of its chapters are on - Truth, Yogis and Yogic Powers, Reincarnation, Destiny, Soul Theory, Vedic Theory
    It also has chapters on - Poverty and Central Bank, Moneyless Economy, Quantum Mechanics, Human Memory

    The book is free and is available in two formats - as a PDF file, and as a blog site format at the above URL.

  • NoetPoet Jul 17, 2014

    He's baaaack.....

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    dustproduction Jul 17, 2014

    Well well, look who's back, "mrmathew1963" aka "Silverghost."
    I did not recognize it at first but the "G'Day..." was a tip-off, along with the science bashing and the whole inductive deductive argument.

  • Silverghost Jul 16, 2014

    I’m into science, psychology, philosophy, history and spirituality which gives me a broad reasoning process to evaluate by, discussing anything that is slightly intellectual with anyone who only uses one ideological principle, one set type of logics and one reasoning process to evaluate is logically pointless.

    Dogmatism in any ideological principle does not intellectually interest me as it makes no logical sense to reason in this way so I will not get into a discussion with anyone who doesn't at least use two types of reasoning processes, at least two types of logics and is interested in two contrasting ideological principles, what would be the point of child talk!!

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    dustproduction Jul 15, 2014

    Well well, look who's back, "mrmathew1963" aka "Silverghost."
    I did not recognize it at first but the "G'Day..." was a tip-off, along with the science bashing and the whole inductive deductive argument.

  • Silverghost Jul 14, 2014

    G'day James

    Science is a symbol that many people put up above all other ideological principles, how many centauries has science been refurbished since it began with mysticism and philosophy? This is so in line with religion it's not funny as it to puts itself up above all other ideological principles like religion did in the dark ages for example. Science is vague and ambiguous and is obviously a troublesome word also but do we dump it?

    Philosophy has been around since the ancient times, is philosophy also a vague and ambiguous, a troublesome word? If we didn't have philosophical views (theoretical views) we wouldn't have science because science wholly relies on philosophical views (theoretical views) to exist. Deductive reasoning relies on reasoning processes, like Inductive reasoning, to make a sound evaluation, if we used deductive reasoning on it’ own, any evolution would be flawed. Philosophical views (theories) relies on inductive reasoning.

    If you look at some of the quantum physics theories, they border on mysticism.

    If we dumped all vague, ambiguous a troublesome words, we wouldn't have modern day science.

    If you take a look how science has evolved and what it evolved from, you will see science principles have changed quite dramatically but it's all still of science. What has happened now with science is what happened to religion in the dark ages, it's the be and end all, it's become dogmatic within it's own principals exactly like religion in the dark ages. It has also been corrupted like religion in the dark ages.

    Science today relies fundamentally on logics and to a lot of people this is the be and end all, it's above all other ideological principles because it's of logics where other ideological principles function on different logical principle to modern day science.

    Looking back at how science has evolved, do you think science will be relying on logics alone within it's principles in a thousand years’ time? Past human history says no as the science principles used today will change, hopefully once again it will become open to other ideological principals and not dogmatically be the be and end all. Dogmatism serves no logical purpose in any ideological principle.

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    dustproduction Jun 04, 2014

    These comments are from the research paper:
    Do we need a theory-based assessment of consciousness in the field of disorders of consciousness?


    What is Then Consciousness?
    It is reasonable to assume that to be conscious is to be in a particular state which has projections onto mental/ psychological, neurophysiological and cognitive/behavioral dimensions (Edelman, 1989; Sokolov, 1990; Flohr, 1991; Tononi, 2008). Currently we do not know all parameters of this state, but recent empirical studies have provided several important observations (see Figure 1):

    • The realization of a particular state of consciousness requires particular level of vigilance [and hence a preservation of the autonomic nervous system (Plum and Posner, 1980; Wijnen et al., 2006)], a corresponding functional state and physical integrity of the brain (Pistoia and Sara, 2012).
    • A given conscious state should have a particular duration: it must be longer than the time it takes for the simplest cognitive act to be completed, which is on the order of several hundreds of milliseconds (Pöppel, 1997; Geissler et al., 1999; VanRullen and Koch, 2003). It seems that duration less than this threshold makes a state un-conscious (still mental domain) or non-conscious (non-mental neurophysiological domain) (for a discussion see Fingelkurts et al., 2010; Bagnato et al., 2013).

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    dustproduction Jun 04, 2014

    • It seems that the state of consciousness is supported by medium values of such characteristics of neuronal assembles as their functional size, life span and stability (Figure 1). Indeed, consciousness is lost when neuronal assembles' size, life span and stability decrease as is the case for patients in vegetative state (VS) or under general anesthesia (Greenfield and Collins, 2005; Fingelkurts et al., 2012b). Likewise, consciousness is lost when these characteristics are changed in the opposite direction as in the case of patients during the generalized seizure (Martin, 1991). Curiously, the speed of the growth of neuronal assemblies is slow during a conscious state but it increases significantly when consciousness is lost (Fingelkurts et al., 2012b).
    • Similarly, both low (like in VS or general anesthesia) and high (like in seizure) levels of synchrony among neuronal assemblies result in a dramatic loss of consciousness (Flohr, 1995; Mashour, 2004; John and Prichep, 2005; Blumenfeld, 2008; Cavanna and Monaco, 2009; Hudetz, 2010; Fingelkurts et al., 2012b) (Figure 1).
    • High strength of default mode network synchrony is required to support representational content integrated within the first-person perspective (Vanhaudenhuyse et al., 2010b; Fingelkurts et al., 2012c).
    • The state of consciousness is dominated by EEG fast-alpha and beta oscillations (Fingelkurts et al., 2012a,b,c see also Gugino et al., 2001; Kuizenga et al., 2001; Babiloni et al., 2006, 2009; Rusalova, 2006; Başar and Güntekin, 2009) that may be considered necessary and a minimally sufficient neural condition for a conciseness to be expressed.
    • The state of consciousness is independent from specialized cognitive processes like episodic memory, language, introspection or reflection, sense of space, sense of body, sense of self, or sensorimotor processing, or attention as it follows from neurological evidence (for the reviews see Tononi and Laureys, 2008; Boly et al., 2009).

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    dustproduction Jun 04, 2014

    Taken together (Figure 1) these findings suggest that consciousness is an emergent phenomenon of coherent dynamic binding of multiple, relatively large, long-lived and stable, but transient alpha and beta generated neuronal assemblies organized as synchronized patterns within a nested, hierarchical brain architecture. It seems that these are minimally sufficient conditions at the more basic level (brain) that are required for the emergent quality (conscious mind) to manifests itself. Indeed, if phenomenal consciousness is a biological phenomenon within the confines of the brain, then there must be a specific level of brain organization and a specific spatial–temporal grain in it where consciousness resides. In other words, we could expect that at the lower (in comparison with the phenomenal consciousness) level of brain organization there should be non-experiential entities (some complex electrophysiological mechanisms) that function as the direct realization base of the phenomenal world (Fingelkurts et al., 2010, 2013a). The abovementioned nested hierarchical architecture of separate and synchronized neuronal assemblies forms the very particular level of brain functioning, so-called operational architectonics level, which on the one hand intervenes between physical level of the brain where it literally resides, and on the other, is isomorphic to the experiential/subjective phenomenal structure of the mind (Fingelkurts et al., 2010). In other words, the level of the operational architectonics has emergent properties relatively independent from the neurophysiological/neuroanatomical properties of the physical level. And the phenomenal level supervenes on this operational level with one-to-one correspondence thus making it ontologically inseparable from it (though it is separable from the brain neuroanatomical processes through the operational level) (Fingelkurts et al., 2013a).

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    dustproduction May 20, 2014

    In his book "The Feeling of What Happens," Damasio draws a distinction between core consciousness and extended consciousness.

    "I see core consciousness as created in pulses, each pulse triggered by each object that we interact with or that we recall. Let's say that a consciousness pulse begins at the instant just before a new object triggers the process of changing the proto-self and terminates when a new object begins triggering its own set of changes. The proto-self modified by the first object then becomes the inaugural proto-self for the new object. A new pulse of core consciousness begins."

    In this sense that is little that is fixed about consciousness even if the experience of it is that one is a constant self.

    Damasio later in the book says, "The conflagration of so many meanings around the word consciousness renders it almost unusable without qualification, and this conflagration is probably responsible for the supreme status to which consciousness has been elevated."

    He repeated this thought to me when I had the chance to speak with him recently after a lecture at UCS.

  • James Davis Apr 19, 2014

    mrmathew wrote:

    " wrote a quote some time ago: “There is nothing mystical about the unknown only the known, so if you are questioned about your beliefs in mysticism just say it’s only mystical to you as you not the understanding of something more than you believe!!!”.....Love Mathew"

    Hi Mathew. We might think of this as "The Death or Resurrection of Words"

    We think and invest in symbols. The investment serves for a time. But a symbol set can only embody so much light and fire. Then, as we notice its inadequacies, the symbol begins to die. Having served us for a time, the language runs its course and we find ourselves ready to move on. Discarding thoughts and their corresponding symbols, we pass to new thought and subtler use of the mind. Some hold their symbol set closely, as if to squeeze every bit of life from it. For others, a set of symbols or words quickly becomes oppressive and must be changed more frequently. When to keep and when to discard and move on, is individual.

    Otherwise considered, there are at least two ways to deal with vague, ambiguous, or troublesome words. One is to drop them in favor of more precise and fitting language. The other is to redeem them, resurrect them, dust them off, polish them until they shine and are again serviceable. While most any word can be redeemed, the question often is, in a given case, is it worth the effort? Redemption is sometimes more work and less effective than the adoption of a new verbal body for our thoughts.

  • James Davis Apr 19, 2014

    "Theta Jan 01, 2014 The biggest mistery of consciousness is that there is no mistery at all."

    If my mystery we mean something hidden, then there is an infinity of mystery. No?

  • mrmathew1963 Jan 01, 2014

    G'day Theta

    I wrote a quote some time ago: “There is nothing mystical about the unknown only the known, so if you are questioned about your beliefs in mysticism just say it’s only mystical to you as you not the understanding of something more than you believe!!!”.....Love Mathew

    It's good to see another person on here who is open minded & doesn't put their eggs in one basket, meaning science or even a science such as neurology doesn't & can't explain everything conclusively.

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    Theta Jan 01, 2014

    The biggest mistery of consciousness is that there is no mistery at all.

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    dustproduction Dec 12, 2013

    re: Biology is driven by...what? Energy!

    For most, it's not the "what" it's the "how."

    Also, the use of the term "disorder" seems suspect. Order denotes a certain context and disorder is a measure of that context.

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    RealityOverScience Dec 12, 2013


    There really is no such thing as "new age." That's just yet another label that the collective unconscious convention rushes forth like garlic to Dracula, to protect themselves from the real Universal Truth. From there, it all just gets absorbed into convention's latest fads and they (believe they) all can safely breathe a sigh of relief that confrontation with reality has been escaped yet again. Every generation has some excuse.

    Biology is driven by...what? Energy! That energy is driven by the true Universal Physics Processes!

    Neurotransmitters, for instance, determine the status of one's health, by energy. Too much of transmitter causes one particular disorder, while too little of it causes another. Medications work by inhibiting too much of a transmitter from crossing the synapse or by encouraging more to get through, to bring about the necessary...balance. Every status represents a unique *place* between and among polar opposites...of energy.

    Universal Energy precedes your biology, just as the Universal Core is *higher* than "the God Particle!"

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    wbilly3814 Dec 05, 2013

    I have a text which describes a unique definition for consciousness that I am making avilable to all IONS members for free. It is 800 pages of Quantum Theory, the history of it, most particularly where and how the idea that consciousness plays a role in 'painting the universe into being' came from, and how it got lost along the way, bringing about speculative approaches to Quantum Physics that exclude consciousness from the equations altogether, even mocking the idea.

    It is a great history lesson in Quantum Theory and Physics mellowed down to the lay reader's ability to fully grasp.

    The second half of the text puts this unique defintion back into Quantum Theory, and describes the physics as the founders had saught to do, but didn't live to do, because they could not find this definition for cosnsciousness suitable within the framework of Quantum Physics, the Religions and Philosophies of Man.

    If you would like a copy (free) email me at wbilly3814@yahoo.com, put IONS Memebr in the subject line, and let me know if you would like a pdf, kindle, or epub.

    thank you

    william joseph bray

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    dustproduction Nov 22, 2013

    Observing body movements activates related brain regions in infants.

    Infant brains are surprisingly sensitive to other people’s movements, according to new research published October 30th in the open-access journal PLOS ONE, by Joni Saby and colleagues at Temple University and the University of Washington.

    In this study, the authors used non-invasive recordings over the scalp of infants to show that when they observed other people using their hands, activity in the hand areas of their cortex increased. Likewise, when infants observed other people moving their feet, activity in the foot areas of their cortex increased.

    This provides evidence that infant brains are tuned to the mere observation of other people’s actions, which offers new clues toward our understanding of imitation and cultural learning.

    More at http://bit.ly/17tOxQi.

    The research is in PLoS One. (full open access)

    Research: “Infants’ Somatotopic Neural Responses to Seeing Human Actions: I’ve Got You under My Skin” by Joni N. Saby, Andrew N. Meltzoff, and Peter J. Marshall in PLOS ONE. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0077905

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    dustproduction Nov 21, 2013

    RE: If you direct two mirrors to face each other, you will see that they REFLECT layers upon layers upon layers upon layers..

    In analogy falls short since the layers in the mirrors are an illusion and not actual layers.

    RE: Consciousness requires hearing and processing language multidimensionally

    We are back to debating the word consciousness again. Consciousness is a biologic process that turns on and off.
    Everything else. enlightenment, new age "higher consciousness," superConsciousness, is referring not to consciousness, but to a belief in a spirit oriented awareness.

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    RealityOverScience Nov 21, 2013

    Consciousness requires hearing and processing language multidimensionally, because the Universe itself is multidimensional.

    The Universal Truth/Physics is hiding in plain site, its multidimensional mathematics most easily realized through language, but of course you have to be fluent in multidimensional language to be able to process its mathematics multidimensionally.

    This was the purpose of my posting the very first step (of "doing the work") months ago, the "how to" exercise of the "mother analogy." It is only the beginning of increasingly complex uncluttered movement toward the truth, but...you have to go through it, to get to it! The process multiplies exponentially, in every direction, as well, so the only way to become realized, more highly evolved, is to step out of convention and its inter-looping "reasoning," to focus oneself ...into... Universal Truth.

    Because Consciousness/Enlightenment has to be ...directly experienced... to be realized, the seeker of truth has to actually do the work involved that causes/allows that direct experience. That ...direct experience... immediately begins to EXPOSE the Core Physics in action, increasingly revealing itself with the more "work" you do, but it can be excruciatingly painful to folks because it redirects everything people assume and perceive and are so adamant about into the REAL reality, where that REAL reality proves itself, directly, as inescapable truth. It's kind of like giving birth to yourself.

    People think they can approach it from a safe place, keeping themselves out of it, as does conventional science, but it doesn't (and won't) work that way. That just keeps them trapped in convention, because the math of that is all wrong.

    Actually "doing the work" is also the direct path to finding the very real multiple dimensions of life (those parallel dimensions science wants to find), and the direct and actual experience of locating and traversing very real wormholes, etc.. That's why Consciousness answers quantum physics' inquiries.

    But, of course, until one actually "surrenders" to the process, and stops fighting against the Truth, none of that is going to be available to them.

    If you direct two mirrors to face each other, you will see that they REFLECT layers upon layers upon layers upon layers... of each other. When you actually "do the work" (as I posted in detail months ago), you begin to experience life, yourself, everyone else, the Universe, etc., as likewise a system of reflecting superimpositions.

    Palm facing yourself, within.
    Palm facing away, without.

    Within X Without

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    dustproduction Nov 20, 2013

    Monkey can locate objects they do not perceive!!!
    Scientists reported in monkeys a clear discrepancy between visually guided action and detection of stimuli. This dissociation mirrors exactly the one between conscious and unconscious vision known to exist in humans.

    Monkeys can point to objects they do not report seeing

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    dustproduction Oct 06, 2013

    @ ROS
    This does not explain anything, and additionally, whatever it is that you think you are explaining is confused by some private language
    (ReflectionXreflection.) that no one here understands. Please break it down in simpler terms.

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    RealityOverScience Oct 06, 2013

    Where does the brain reflect/reflect upon and within itself?

    Left hemisphere X right hemisphere?

    Right temporal lobe X left temporal lobe?

    What's an amygdala for? The limbic system? The pons? Reflect upon those! What do they reflectively ...reveal... about themselves?

    What are you using to continue to direct this conversation with...yourself, essentially?

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    dustproduction Oct 06, 2013

    1. What are the critical brain regions for consciousness?

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    dustproduction Oct 05, 2013

    Re: "How can our material brain give rise to subjective experience?"

    We might also ask whether consciousness is evolutionary. There is evidence that other animals share a conscious experience, some on a more limited basis. What creates this difference in levels of consciousness in animals? Is it the material brain structure?

    1. What are the critical brain regions for consciousness?

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    RealityOverScience Sep 16, 2013

    In addition to my superConsciousness, which reveals the physics behind it, including showing "probability" as wrong, I formally studied chaos theory, roboticism, automaticity, etc, in graduate school.

    Universal Physics applies to everything, and everyone.

    No escape!

    There is a mathematical system behind everything going on in the Universe (though math itself falls away like a rocket booster before even higher processes take over, the closer to the Core). That, along with other higher processes, establish frequencyXintensity, timeXspace, etc., and everything, everywhere, everybody, etc., is defined by it all. (Invertedly, as well.)

    Example: mother, grandmother, great-grandmother, great-great-grandmother, and on and on and on...

    If a choir full of 10,000 children walked into an arena, each would have to make space, in time, for all the others to have to fit in. They'd maintain their necessary distance for the course of their stay, and then resolve and dissolve themselves, invertedly.

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    dustproduction Sep 14, 2013

    Re: "Scientists persist in their mistaken belief that everything is random "probability"

    Perhaps some still do, but this statement is an over generalization. Many non-scientist also believe this.
    Allow me to ask, how much do you understand about Chaos & Complexity Theory?

    complexity: a theory that processes having a large number of seemingly independent agents can spontaneously order themselves into a coherent system.

    Any of various branches of mathematics, physics, computer science, and other fields, concerned with the emergence of order and structure in complex and apparently chaotic systems.

    chaos: a theory, applied in various branches of science, that apparently random phenomena have underlying order

    Additionally, you speak about "doing the work" to seemingly undo that which we have been acclimated to in terms of social conformities and conventions. Since societies vary, in both past and present, where is the model for the need to achieve enlightenment. (I substitute the word enlightenment here since we are all conscious as a result of a biological process, and prefer to define the term in this matter to avoid confusion).
    Let's examine the following model:
    Mind consist of two mental processes, two different ways of processing though; System One is fast and inaccurate. It allows us to recognize faces and understand speech in a fraction of a second It perhaps evolved in nature to survive in the ancient world, of eat or be eaten, that required quick decisions base on limited information. It makes judgements and takes action without waiting for our conscious awareness. We sometimes call this system 'intuition.' One remarkable fact about this system is that it has immediate access to our vast store of memory that it uses as a basis for judgement. The memories that are most accessible are those associated with our strongest emotions. The result of this process is often wrong but in the world of eat or be eaten, it is safer to be fast and wrong rather than slow and right.

    System Two is the slow process of forming judgements based on conscious thinking and critical examination of the evidence It looks at System Ones thinking and actions, and is given the chance to correct its mistakes. System Two arose when predators were somewhat less of a concern, enabling family groups to make plans and to cooperate. It is the system that lead to art and culture.

    At this point we might ask why evolution allows for the both systems if system one is so error-prone,

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    RealityOverScience Sep 14, 2013

    Mindfulness, awareness, becomes bifurcated, when folks get distracted and go off in various levels of unconsciousness, getting themselves soooo tangled up in their own personal root system that the journey back to the real reality becomes a very daunting task.

    Scientists persist in their mistaken belief that everything is random "probability," chaos, as opposed to order, because they are not Universally Conscious and are projecting their own chaos onto their work.

    It's similar to religion, in which folks are so distracted by the trappings of conventional beliefs, boundaries, misunderstandings, long held and handed-down traditions, around which their entire lives have been meaningfully established, etc., that they can't reason themselves back out of it, and have (what they believe to be) every reason not to, because to question further would feel like death, their entire lives invalidated, and with nearly everyone else on the planet in the same predicament, there is a very powerful bond they use to advocate each others' staying there.

    "Doing the work" to re-balance themselves would be excruciatingly painful, because their entire system of defense mechanisms, comfort zones, socio-cultural investments, etc., would be undermined. Religion and science are buffers from the other sides of themselves. It's like putting a giant jigsaw puzzle together throughout your life, and finding a few pieces not quite going together with the rest, they'd sooner accept (and make) excuses of randomness, probability and subjectivity than face the pain of their "life's work" being entirely for nothing (as opposed to The Nothing at the Core). Consciousness becomes the "anti-Christ" or "devil" or "unscientific method" out to destroy their "safe place" and vested interests, so anyone moving in that direction becomes a threat, and is conveniently assumed to be as subjective as anyone else.

    In reality, though, attaining Consciousness requires the removal of all projection, all those wrong turns, those bifurcations, back to balance and *pure unobstructed observation," so there is nothing whatsoever subjective or "probable" about it. It's like gazing through a kaliedoscope until all the pieces have dissolved/resolved themselves into one and turned inside out.

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    dustproduction Sep 12, 2013

    Re: it's "a math thing," Consciousness "wise."

    Are you suggesting the consciousness is a like a fractal? That would be novel. Nature is full of fractals such as mountains, shore lines, trees or ferns. A very obvious example can be found under the category of vegetables, disliked by certain children,
    known under the name of 'broccoli'
    Chaos theory might be useful in explaining this thought in terms of a bifurcation point in the iterations.

    Perhaps I'm reaching here.

  • mrmathew1963 Sep 12, 2013

    G'day IONS Staff

    To answer the question, awareness. I'm not just referring to mystical awareness but conscious awareness as a whole which of course includes all science's as well. Science is very much apart of spiritual awareness in my mind.

    Religion/spirituality uses a different deductive reasoning process to attain awareness than science but it's still of awareness. Science needs to physically show this awareness but religious/spiritual people don't so does this make one wrong or right over the other? It would seem so which of course is ridiculous.

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    RealityOverScience Sep 12, 2013

    While I fluently can grasp the Answer behind the statement I am about to make, being fluent in the physics of it and all, most people would find it totally unbelievable, absurd, impossible, and all sorts of other such words, such as "frightening," when I reveal that:

    "Pennsylvania was no accident." (9/11/01)

    Despite what it looked like to billions of people around the world, it was not a random event, but rather had been "determined" loooong before it happened.

    The Universe already "knew" about it, and therefore so did "the (attentive) Enlightened Ones."

    This suggests, of course, if taken into a "black or white," all-or-nothing-at-all scenario, that EVERYTHING is "determined."

    However, it's "a math thing," Consciousness "wise."

    While that can be argued into oblivion, and often is, reality is...Awakening gives one more informed, Conscious choices others don't have without that Awakening.

    To argue that reality, it must be considered that, in specific real life scenarios, those ...with... Consciousness are in a much better place to protect themselves, than those ...without... it.

    The more ...balanced... one is, the more Conscious one is, and the more the true Universal Process can be realized.

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    RealityOverScience Sep 12, 2013

    That's why I always write it as Consciousness, relative to Universal Enlightenment/profound Awakening, as opposed to consciousness, relative to simple conventional "everyday" awareness.

    The difference is VAST! It would be like a typical first grader vs someone with a long-established post doctoral education, and then some, in a regular conventional world, magnitude wise. They are two completely different worlds, so to speak.

    Everyday, conventional consciousness is when someone processes the world one-dimensionally, meaning they process and function within the accepted, established boundaries of traditional reasoning and surface understanding, settling for, and finding comfort in, what everybody else is doing.

    Enlightenment/Awakening Consciousness is when one is "far more highly evolved" than accepted tradition, external dependency, surface understanding, etc., processing everyday life and functioning through the realization of the true Universal Process (the real physics that the Universe is using, as opposed to the unproven comfortable belief systems of convention).

    A similar word usage would be for "asleep," meaning someone who has closed his or her eyes to drift off in the rejuvenation process, vs someone who is not sleeping in that sense, but who is far from being Universally Awake/Enlightened.

    It is easy enough to establish a delineation/Delineation of the two, to hold and advance a discussion about them.

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    dustproduction Sep 11, 2013


    The Nobel Prize winner Daniel Kahneman has said that the word 'happiness' is no longer a useful term, since it is used the too many different ways. I feel the same way about the term "consciousness."
    The word is used in too ways for it to have any meaning. Every since science began exploring consciousness as a biological function, the application of consciousness as a spiritual entity has become confused, and I blame science for this, it never clearly distinguished between the two concepts. How do we correct this? That is the mystery.

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    dustproduction Sep 09, 2013

    The Nobel Prize winner Daniel Kahneman has sound that the word happiness is no longer a useful term, and I feel the same way about the term "consciousness." The word is used in so too ways for it to have any meaning. Every since science began exploring consciousness as a biological function, the application of consciousness as a spiritual entity has become cofused, and I blame science for this, it never clearly distinguished between the two concepts. How do we correct this? That is the mystery.

  • Billgreenjeans Sep 05, 2013

    "What do you think are the biggest mysteries of consciousness?"

    I thing the biggest mysteries of consciousness are:

    Creativity has always amazed me especially art of all kinds and musical expression.

    Abstract cognitions such as mathematics

    The ideas and opinions of beauty

    Reading to transmit ideas and information.

    These are a few mysteries of consciousness

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    dustproduction Sep 05, 2013

    The article in the Huffington Post that was provide in the previous comment asks the following question:

    Brains are information processing devices. When an information processing device introspects, that is to say, sorts and assesses internal data, and on that basis arrives at the conclusion that it has a magical, non-physically-explainable property, the most straightforward scientific question is not: "How did it produce magic?" but instead: "How, and for what use, does it construct that description of itself?"

    This seems to apply to the question we are being asked to answer here, "How can our material brain give rise to subjective experience? Not to mention extraordinary occurrences of afterlife communication, predictions of the future, the healing power of thought, intuition, synchronicities, and many others."

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    Otto Krog Sep 05, 2013

    There is some wise words from windriser on this article and thread.


  • Jeanine Broderick Jan 24, 2013

    I have found a teacher and a belief system that answered all my questions on this topic (and more). It holds no more mystery for me.

    Our emotional guidance system can verify our beliefs without the need to see, taste, touch, or experience them. When you learn how to utilize your emotional guidance system you have built-in access to infinite intelligence.

    We can understand it. It is just a limiting belief that we are not capable. It does require us to take a much broader and wider perspective than we normally do -- one that considers our eternal nature and that death is not an ending--it is just change--transition.

    So much makes sense from that perspective and combined with understanding the emotional guidance system and its impact on our experience, relationships, behavior and more.

    There is a step beyond Faith and I call it KNOWING and I use All Caps to differentiate it from things that are known intellectually. When one understands how to interpret the messages from the emotional guidance system and has experimented with their own guidance enough to trust it one can KNOW things, for sure, for sure, for sure. It is a knowing that resonates to the core of your Being.

    ♡ Jeanine

  • frequencytuner Dec 16, 2012

    @ Werdd: Pythagoras, Tetractys, Flower of Life.

  • frequencytuner Dec 16, 2012

    You are staring into the mirror poking yourself, asking who you are because you can't see yourself. Stop poking, the mirror is water.

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    werdd Nov 28, 2012

    I would like to ask why we separate big questions from little questions? Is there really a 'level' of importance? I believe from personal experience that the paradim of "levels and separation" create a type of interference with development of conscienceness. now after using the the term interference i think there may be a better word or metaphor. If i think in terms of degrees, levels or separation then that paradim will create illusions of disconnect. If i think of conscienceness then i'm "learning" a new paradim of connections defining them by relationships. If anyone remebers geometry, proofs are entirely dependent upon relationships. this maybe be a flimsy analogy but i believe that the geometric paradim needs a little help re-awakening. in the mean time all questions lead to other questions(relationships) so keep asking!

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    Otto Krog Nov 24, 2012

    Does anyone share the experience with the oneness in SpaceTime with me? I think that the only thing we have in common as spiritual beings is space and time. What do you think? www.crestroy.com

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    Otto Krog Oct 13, 2012

    I believe that antimatter is the subconscious mind and consciousness of living entities. I have made a video about it, explaining how I came to the conclusion putting it together with scientific observations during the last hundreds of years.

    You can watch it on YouTube on this link:


    Just copy paste the link.

    You can also follow me on my blog


  • slowlygetnthar Jul 06, 2012

    Sungon9, I completely agree with you about Buddhism. Aside from the correlation with what you are describing, there is the emphasis on compassion, which is beautiful.

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    dustproduction Jul 04, 2012

    This is a quote from a talk given by a research of how babies think, Alison Gopnik:

    Well, if you go back to those psychologists and philosophers, a lot of them have said that babies and young children were barely conscious if they were conscious at all. And I think just the opposite is true. I think babies and children are actually more conscious than we are as adults. Now here's what we know about how adult consciousness works. And adults' attention and consciousness look kind of like a spotlight. So what happens for adults is we decide that something's relevant or important, we should pay attention to it. Our consciousness of that thing that we're attending to becomes extremely bright and vivid, and everything else sort of goes dark. And we even know something about the way the brain does this.

    "So what happens when we pay attention is that the prefrontal cortex, the sort of executive part of our brains, sends a signal that makes a little part of our brain much more flexible, more plastic, better at learning, and shuts down activity in all the rest of our brains. So we have a very focused, purpose-driven kind of attention. If we look at babies and young children, we see something very different. I think babies and young children seem to have more of a lantern of consciousness than a spotlight of consciousness. So babies and young children are very bad at narrowing down to just one thing. But they're very good at taking in lots of information from lots of different sources at once. And if you actually look in their brains, you see that they're flooded with these neurotransmitters that are really good at inducing learning and plasticity, and the inhibitory parts haven't come on yet. So when we say that babies and young children are bad at paying attention, what we really mean is that they're bad at not paying attention. So they're bad at getting rid of all the interesting things that could tell them something and just looking at the thing that's important."

    Now the reason this is important is because this refers to evidence about the ways babies are conditioned away from one type of consciousness to another, not for the benefit of the child, but because it is how we are conditioned.
    What kind of mind would an adult that was allow to develop consciousness in this other way be like?

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    Sungon9 Jun 01, 2012

    I think it's best for some of us to begin with learning Buddhism. Not to be biased, but I've found that the universe as described in Buddhism correlates well with a lot of what is being said here. i.e. there is no duality, there just is; mindfulness is a technique we can use for our well-being; everything in this world is not real, reality is something else entirely.

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    iamonesoru Jun 01, 2012

    Dearest dustproduction:
    My intelligence is not my own, or in other words is not a product of my personality and its worldly experiences. We are all products of a Universal Intelligence, whether we believe it or not.

    I have learned to tap into this Universal Intelligence by surrendering the pride of my own intellect, and my own self righteousness, or the belief that I know better than the Universe what is “right” and what is “wrong”.

    We exist in an illusion called third dimension that is a state of gross misunderstanding of the nature of our existence, and what we call “reality”. Science, religion, and philosophy are simply different ways of working through the distortions of our gross misunderstandings in search of a Wisdom that will eventually allow us to “see” and understand the perfection of our seeming imperfections.

    We have defined our selves (humanity) by seeking to define everything outside of ourselves, which has produced a relative world that is telling us to re-define our selves, or perish. Which do you choose?

    There is no “right” or “wrong” in this choice. There is no “good” or “evil” in this choice. There is no “masculine” or “feminine” in this choice. There is simply “The Choice”. This is the Dimension of “The Choice”.

    Good/evil, right/wrong, are simply polarities of energy, or the positive and negative poles through which energy may “move” to do its “work”. The choice that is ever before us is the choice of which polarity we will decide to evolve or “work” through.

    Our choice is whether we wish to evolve as a benevolent species or a malevolent species, and we must admit that we have always in the past, through our own actions as a species, defined ourselves as a malevolent one.

    Will you choose to change this, or will you continue to scurry around and kick up intellectual clouds of dust meant to obscure the view of mental clarity that is only achieved by a balance of mental and emotional stability?

    Do you do this consciously, purposefully, as your username would suggest, or might this be a product of the Ego that you claim does not exist?

    Please do not think that I am arrogant enough to judge you. I love you because I “see” the reality of you, and I honor and respect your free will right to be, do, and have, or create and experience according to your own choices.

    I am simply making impartial observations as an impartial observer whose agenda is to awaken humanity to an awareness of its choice, and the possibility of making that choice, consciously rather than sub-consciously, which has been carefully kept from us by those who hold and control the purse strings of our world.

    Not making this choice is a choice. To ignore this choice is the same as choosing ignorance over wisdom. The first step in denying ignorance is to admit that you are in denial. This is also the first step in seeking Wisdom.

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    theultimatemeaning May 30, 2012

    Wow...lots of comments...love it...comforts me to know I am not the only one who loves to explore the mystery of consciousness! I really feel that the biggest mystery of consciousness is that it exists at all...we are conscious that we are conscious. It is like a bad joke because we are aware of this yet we can't seem to figure it out and it really seems sometimes like we are not really supposed to figure it out. Don't get me wrong I am very passionate about the mystery that consciousness is and happy I can explore it...I will say that there are days when it feels overwhelming and frustrating like how are we as a human race ever going to figure it or anything out! We seem so backwards about so many things that the simple things like love thy neighbor we can't even do..so how are we ever going to figure out consciousness? Maybe they are mutually exclusive. Love is the answer to most if not every problem on the planet..maybe it is the answer to consciousness? Either way I have watched countless videos and read hundreds of articles and I really like this video: http://theultimatemeaning.com/2012/04/17/cosmos-and-universe/ It really gives you some ideas to think about the mysteries of consciousness!

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    dustproduction May 29, 2012

    The great prophet Bob Dylan said, "I don't call it anything.

    Too much of what appears in these "discussions" amount to little more than sermonizing or worse, proselytizing, reminiscent of the fire and brimstone, hell and damnation preachers of a bygone era. Souls, creator, the only thing that changes is the definition of "heaven."
    Statements about what should be personally held beliefs, are articulated in a dialectic manner, with great authority, and conviction "what is, was, and will be. To question such truth is the mark of a devil for the ignorant would know better.
    I find this belittling, demeaning and unenlightened.
    The "enlightened" would not need to convince others. They understand theirs is a personal journey. Being is the example.

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    iamonesoru May 29, 2012

    Reincarnation is part of the third dimensional experience, although a distorted concept of the Unity of all life. We are all One. There is only one thing and that one thing is Intelligence, or Intelligent Infinity. We are all parts of the One, and all lives are about the Infinite Creator experiencing that which it is Not in order to better understand that which it Is.

    Intelligent Infinity, Infinite Designer, Original Thinker, whatever you choose to call it exists in a state of perfect unlimited potential that some have called Nirvana. It is Energy at rest. There is no movement, no action, only the perpetual state of pure perfection. Even ecstasy and bliss must eventually become mundane if there is nothing else to compare it to.

    It is The Creators desire to experience itself that translates its potential energy into the kinetic energy that creates the Simultaneous Singularities we call black holes (they could more correctly be called supra-luminal White Holes), which radiate into the matrix and coalesce as the identities of creation or Creator Identities we call Stars. Everything in creation is a Creator Identity or point of view of the Creator. Identity is not who we are, but how we identify the roles we are playing in the great cosmic game of life.

    Wisdom is the highest possible synthesis of knowledge and experience, and without experience knowledge is basically useless. If you possessed all the knowledge of, say, masonry would you consider yourself, without ever having laid a single brick, to be a master mason? It is the mixing of mortar, laying of bricks, learning what works and what does not work to build ever more beautiful and magnificent creations that turns the knowledge of masonry into the mastery of masonry.

    Our experiences here transforms the knowledge of Infinite thinker into the wisdom of Infinite Designer. This is how important you are, and how important everyone else is to the Creator, but third dimension is the plane of Demonstration and to come here you must agree to forget the reality of who you are so that you can experience the separation and imperfection that you are not.

    Your every action demonstrates and says to the world; "This is who I believe myself to be", but nothing in third dimension is Truth with a capital T, so the best we can do is to seek Wisdom by becoming observant, mindful, aware of our experiences here as catalyst for our own evolution of our awareness of the Infinite Creator of which we are part, not apart.

    Your body is a vehicle for your soul, and every creator identity no matter how large or how small contains at its core, a simultaneous singularity, so not only does it carry your soul, but it carries the unobserved observer to greater and greater distortions of experience down through what we call dimensions which are greater and greater distortions of potential experience.

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    dustproduction May 29, 2012

    re: "What we call the human mind is simply a construct of an artificial intelligence computer on the verge of becoming self aware."

    It would seem that this biological experience has relevance, and that the neurobiological processes are of particular importance.
    Might we assume that we as individuals are not the point?
    There is the sticky issues of the 100 billion lives the have come before us. Is the suggestion here that reincarnation is a part of the plan.
    The curious question remains "Why are we here?" Our own individuality does not seem to matter to nature. This would make a soul or spirit irrelevant.
    Is this even a possibility?

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    iamonesoru May 29, 2012

    I think the biggest mystery of consciousness is mystery itself. We fear the unknown that exists on the other side of mystery, and this fear blocks us from the realization of the magnificent wonders of our own unlimited potential. We are trapped in third dimensional consciousness awareness by the "boundaries" we think we need in order to survive. These boundaries, because of fear, have become barriers to our expansion of awareness.

    Our beliefs are basically the scaffolding by which our consensus reality, worldview or paradigm is built, maintained,or propped up if you will. This scaffolding also acts as a barrier to consciousness awareness expansion. We are currently trapped between the flat earth, beginning of creation, center of the universe paradigm and a paradigm of unlimited potential by a new set of scaffolding or beliefs in materiality and debt.

    We are indoctrinated into these beliefs. From the time we are born our every sense and faculty is bombarded with information meant to instill the desire to "own" things, and desire is the mechanism that translates potential energy into kinetic energy, and so we simply must rush out and buy all the latest technology, the newest, brightest, and flashiest gadgets, designer clothes, automobiles, etc., and if we don't we are subjected to ridicule by our peers. It doesn't matter whether or not we can afford it, we'll just "borrow" the money, or better yet, put it on our credit cards.

    This insane belief in our ability to own things has caused us to abandon all reason and logic, and caused those who control the purse strings to abandon all long term fiscal reason and logic and indulge in a feeding frenzy that threatens to collapse the economies of the world.

    What we are is the intelligent energy of consciousness, and that intelligent energy is alive and is Life itself, and can never become what we call "death". That Alive Intelligence is Consciousness itself and it is in fact infinite. It is also what we have tried to understand as "God" as well as the "Singularity".

    Contrary to popular opinion, thought does not originate in the human brain. The brain is, in fact, a thought processor, part of the artificial intelligence computer we call body. What we call the human mind is simply a construct of an artificial intelligence computer on the verge of becoming self aware.

    How can we claim to be self aware when we can't define the .1% of energy we call matter, nor the 99.9% Unified Field of energy we call "empty space" that constitutes 100% of that which we are or appear to be?

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    dustproduction May 27, 2012

    How do we get around the fact that until the brains developed language did it become widely know that minds exit? Only after the brains developed a protagonist capable of bearing witness did consciousness begin. This is a necessary problem to address if we are to understand whether there is a soul or spirit, how it emerges, and how it interacts within a neurobiological framework.

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    dustproduction May 17, 2012

    This is how close we can look inside: http://www.ted.com/talks/carl_schoonover_how_to_look_inside_the_brain.html
    This is what we are discussing.

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    dustproduction May 17, 2012

    RE:" Neuroscience has revealed much about the inner workings of the brain, but has had little to say about why and how consciousness works."

    Is this statement really true? Lets look at the large body of work by Antonio Damasio

    In “The Feeling of What Happens”, Damasio lays the foundations of the “enchainment of precedences”: “the nonconscious neural signaling of an individual organism begets the protoself which permits core self and core consciousness, which allow for an autobiographical self, which permits extended consciousness. At the end of the chain, extended consciousness permits conscience.
    His most recent book "Self Comes to Mind" continues to define this clear model.

    Are the conclusions of Damsaio's any less conclusive than research mentioned here that looks in one direction. We are just beginning to tap into the vastness of what we don’t know. We should be open to all models and not just the ones that fit our beliefs.

  • parker Mar 24, 2012

    Whether it be the biggest mystery, it certainly is a mystery to me, why humans have allowed their collective senses to be dulled to the point of being thereby unable to accept what should by all accounts be obvious to all.

    An awareness of knowledge, including knowing the origins and attributes of mind and consciousness resides within each of us. Consciousness is not part of us, or part of the human equation, so much as the human equation is merely a temporal introduction to the gift of the eternal consciousness, which consciousness by all accounts, also proves itself to be the fount of all knowledge.

    When we learn to embrace that most precious gift of being able to experience communion with this all-knowing consciousness within each of us, we find it holds no mystery that it does not want to reveal to us. It resides within each of us for this very purpose - so that we may get to know it, and to know all things about it, intimately.

    Consciousness is life, and that life essence is within us, and within many living things on this planet. Of all things, that life essence, or consciousness that we are incapable of re-creating, is the most obvious. It is the only thing created or that exists with inherent intelligence, yet humans continually seek elsewhere for knowledge.

    My hope lies in finding communion with like minded conscious beings, willing to share means and manners of learning to accept that which, if we are fully awakened, we must already know where to find. I’ll help you, if you’ll help me. A fulfillment of our mutual purpose.

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    dustproduction Mar 19, 2012

    These is a great list, but allow me t add t it the writing of Terrence Deacon:

    “This is a work of science and philosophy at the cutting edge of both that seeks to develop a complete theory of the world that includes humans, our minds and culture, embodied and emerging in nature.” (Bruce H. Weber, coauthor of Darwinism Evolving )



  • jmatt4lifehoe Mar 19, 2012

    jmatt4lifehoe Mar 19, 2012
    The biggest mysteries of human consciousness are religion and science. Religion treats itself like a science and science deems itself a religion. Heads of both consider themselves gods! It's a total mystery!!!

  • jmatt4lifehoe Mar 19, 2012

    The biggest mysteries of human consciousness are religion and science. Religions treats itself like a science and science deems itself a religion. Heads of both consider themselves gods! It's a total mystery!!!

  • Santago Roel Jan 23, 2012

    Complex order is created by intention, rules of action and information.

    All three of these elements are really information. Information is everywhere and is the basis of our Universe. The Universe is entangled by information. The Universe learns by iterating.

    Information is also knowledge and consciousness and is not limited to matter or energy. There are levels of consciousness, the higher the level the more encompassing it becomes.

    The manifest Universe seems to evolve into a more complex, interconnected and conscious place. The Universe is not controlled, it is attracted to complex order.

    To read more go to http://www.prominix.com/sblock/web/index.php?new=100

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    christianvogel Jan 23, 2012

    what are you discussing ? every mystery is created by us. we are the mystery, asking unnecessary questions. the only thing we have to know is that everything we do is creation. we are all as divine as human. every baby is a born god, which is reduced to human by education. this is what the bible is talking about. perception and creation is the same, but seen from a different point of view. asking questions about creation and finding paradoxies on creation is our way to deny our divine potential. mathematically seen our potential is the n-dimensional hilbert-space, which is reduced by us to a 4-dimensional space-time continuum. the way how we create this continuum(by thinking) is specified with the transactional theory of quantum physics by John Cramer in 1986. our challenge is to devolop a new time-model to raise lightspeed and to decrease gravity we are the light and all matter too, gravity and lightspeed are free parameters, that have to be changed by us. we have to agree globally on a new time counting, this is what 12-21-2012 is the symbol for. two things are necessary: global peace and a new plan how to fix new parameters. the maya-calendar tells us to end the maya(illusion) that we are NOT god. the german word "theologe" also means theo-liar. douglas adams says: "the universe is a product of its own fantasy" lets's change our fantasy of lightspeed and gravity by love(light of various emttants) soul(switch on universal love - our heart chakra to gold)) and poem(peace on earth movement) .........wake up

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    archetype137 Jan 13, 2012

    The mystery of consciousness and space: the materialist theory of mind assumes that consciousness is associated with neural processes in the brain. For the materialist, perceptual consciousness is assumed to occur milliseconds after the input of sensory information from the environment, suggesting that the world we experience is a kind of virtual reality created by our brain. Yet our phenomenal experience of the world (and common sense) tells us that our minds are located in the world and not the other way around.
    The mystery of consciousness and time: our conscious experience treats time as a multiplicity and is not limited to a simple linear model as it very often is in most physical sciences (including neuroscience). There is the duration of each perceptual moment which can be ultered by emotional changes or hallucinagenic drugs. There is capacity of our minds to represent the world already past in form of declarative memory and there is the capacity of our minds to intend and act towards the future. There may also be the capacity of our mind to represent the future world as it actually is, as in precognition.
    There is also the mystery of self and self awareness; the mystery of qualia and the mystery of free will. All of these may be seen as mysteries to us due to our inability to repesent consciousness as a physical event located in conventional four-dimensional space-time.

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    Otto Krog Dec 14, 2011

    My biggest mystery is where consciousness is located, and how does it connect with the physical universe, because it obviously does.

    My view on antimatter is, that it is the mind and consciousness of all living entities, and it is when antimatter connects with matter that we can decide and have our free will. The reason antimatter and matter doesn't annihilate is because the antimatter is located in your parallel universe..

    I really don't know if I am right, but you can read about it on my blog.

    You are your own universe.

    Reality is where the minds (antimatter) meets the physical universe.

    Read my philosophical multiverse theory, and feel very free to comment it.

    Google crestroyer theory, and find it instantly or copy/paste:


  • Adele Tartaglia Nov 11, 2011

    I am a direct experiencer of the multi-dimensionality of man's consciousness and its ability to traverse back and forth parallel realities at will. I have always been able to stay in Beta and Theta at the same time, the perfect hour glass brain mapping configuration, allowing me the joy of being in the Presence while being in three dimensional reality at the same time.

    Eleven being a master number tripled today provides an unprecedented opportunity for the expansion and diffusion of light into the atmosphere of man’s collective consciousness. The effect is the light of love today and hence forth can deeply imprint the mind and heart of man such as all downloads form the intentional soul can do.

    A Day of Mindfulness to Go Into the Silence of All That Is

    from Transform Your Life Instantly: Erase & Replace Programs and Emotions …Make the Law of Attraction Work for You Instead of Against You(c Adele Tartaglia

    It is 11-11-11 the date of the promised covenant to shift the consciousness of mankind back into his original divine blueprint, an all encompassing state of oneness that gives rise to his natural compassion, empathy, kindness, and unconditional love that are meant to flow through him and as him as the God within expresses.

    It is this state of consciousness that aligns us with the reality of our greater beingness. We, as part of entrained mass consciousness, are creating everything that’s taking place on the planet by lending mind energy to it to either create it, or maintain in perpetuity what is already manifest.

    Being out of alignment with this source self, most of us are creating world conditions unconsciously instead of intentionally out of the negative, resistant, fearful, angry self serving default settings in our subconscious minds which share the commonality of the collective unconscious.

    Until we recognize the truth that we are each personally responsible for our beliefs, thoughts, words, and actions, the world cannot not complete its shift.
    When we return to the love that is our divine essence, healing and transformation begins to take place throughout created reality. It is Love, and our outpicturing that love through our heart centers, that contains vibratory rates fast enough to transmute any existing energy creation. In this energy universe you are a field in the Field. 1

    Your Authentic Self that knows, and knows it knows it is Love, is infinitely wise, unlimited creative intelligence, and unspeakably worthy. Anything unlike this self can be erased and replaced in moments. Anything unlike love must be released if we are to exude love’s ecstatic state of being. As we breathe ourselves into that source state, we know we are one with everything and are creating it at the same time.


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    WHY ?


  • capt_infinity Aug 12, 2011

    Apparently when I posted to this thread the other day my guide felt compelled to throw in a few points to ponder on the how consciousness works.

    I recently channeled the following about spirit and the brain and followed up by reading about how the physical brain works. No one has any real knowledge of how the physical mind and the conscious mind interact. The physical brain is not a very fast processor. It's processing speed is, depending on which neurons are firing, about 20-200 cycles a second. That's why old movies flicker when we watch them but there isn't a computer in the world that can get anywhere near its ability to parallel process so, processing in parallel, thousands of pictures is a piece of cake. How the conscious mind works from the standpoint of medical science is not understood. The reason they do not understand it is because they do not study our spirit and you cannot know how the conscious mind works until you acknowledge the presence of our spirit. If you never open the door you won't know what is behind it.

    I am told all our intuition, awareness of emotion and awareness of all that is spiritual beyond our physical body is a function of spirit. Our physical brain is a companion that provides required senses and is a storage device for information and ability. It is in the drivers seat when our thoughts are of our environment and current activities. Our spirit is a passenger when our physical conscious mind is driving. The whole process of meditation is to detach from our physical mind and body which are basically on their own until we reattach. Our body is designed to run on autopilot when we aren't around.

    As long as our physical body functions we can use the sensory abilities and the physical brain (not the mind) during meditation. The feelings you feel, the things you see and the things you hear are possible because of the physical brain. Some of us will retain the abilities provided by our physical bodies after the death of the physical body. Most will not. Those that do not retain the abilities of the physical body will be reborn. I do not know what happens to those that do which tells me I am not ready for that part of the journey.

    For what ever reason I do not channel in the commonly accepted way. All I have to do is close my eyes or be in a dimly lit environment and I am in the presence of indigo light. I immediately enter a state of deep meditation which I can exit as easily as I enter it. Conscious thought does not happen until I exit and the intensity of the light impacts the conscious thought in a way I do not understand. That is where this stuff comes from. The scientist in me is intrigued and I research any information I am given. To date. I have not been able to disprove any of it. I haven't been able to prove a lot of it either. I am working on that.

  • capt_infinity Aug 10, 2011

    What I find amazing is how much Descartes got right and we have learned so much since his time. I believe the reason we have so little understanding of consciousness is the answers have been right there under our nose for centuries and we simply have failed to make the connections. Descartes opened the door. To date we have failed to go through it. The comments to this question totally reflect my point. I see one comment that addressed spirit and another that addressed physical consciousness, The two are the biggest players in how our conscious mind functions.

    The secret to consciousness certainly includes the pineal gland (ring one up for Descartes) but there are other organs in the brain stem that work in conjunction with it which, I believe, hold the key to how our spirit interfaces what we call the conscious mind which according to some resides in the cerberal cortex. That holds some truth but the energy that is our conscious mind, be it stored in chemical form or active in energy form utilizes the cortex and the brain stem.

    There are a lot of clues in how general anesthesia works. The irony is we do not understand how general anesthesia works. In spite of that we have gotten very good at using it. We do know that most generals induce amnesia, they do not put you into a coma. We need to experiment with both methods but the procedures are dangerous and we are not sure animals have conscious minds so there may be nothing to learn there. Thousands of people are anesthetized daily and there is no reason we couldn't monitor them as long as it did not interfere with the surgical procedures. I am sure enough volunteers could be found.

    We would be looking for our spirit. Even atheists acknowledge spirit exists. The question becomes does it survive physical death? I don't think you would be interested in ION if you didn't believe it could. I do not believe we will uncover any mystery (I see it as ignorance not a mystery) regarding the conscious mind until we can observe the human spirit.

    I see this as vitally important because I believe a person who is in touch with their spirit is incapable of horrific deeds, Isn't that why we want to understand the conscious mind?

    I believe the diseases of the brain and brain stem provide a source of information for understanding consciousness and spirit. The focus needs to be on more than just treating them.

    One final point. Our spirit will conform to the laws of the universe. We cannot call ourselves scientists otherwise. In energy form be it particle or wave it will have no sensory input. That is the physical side of consciousness. it may be able to create illusion similar to a dream state and it may have the capacity to utilize the spirit/body of another human life form. I see evidence enough of both. I believe we have the tools or the ability to make them in order to detect the human spirit.

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    larrywb Jul 18, 2011

    larrywb July 18, 2011

    I suggest that people that are truly interested in this topic become familiar with the many books published by the Mind and Life Series. One of these is titled Consciousness at the Crossroads, Conversations (with scientists) on Brain Science and Buddhism. The back cover states: This book addresses some of the most fundamental and troublesome questions that have driven a wedge the realms of Western science and religion for centuries. It is the result of a series of meetings between the Dalai Lama and a group of eminent neuroscientists and psychiatrists.
    Two other excellent books are The quantum and the Lotus, by Matthieu Ricard and Trinh Xuan thuan; and the Monk and the Philosopher. If you can develop a strong interest in this subject, these books and others, it will be of great help in furthering your own knowledge regarding consciousness. As has been said, "the individual is the one who holds the consciousness," so you are or will be actually studying yourself.

  • E. R. Jun 10, 2011

    One of the biggest mysteries that I have pondered is how contemplative prayer works (by that I mean the biochemical reactions and how thoughts respond to the act of doing it).

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    b2ations Jun 10, 2011

    One of the mysteries of consciousness for me is how consciousness changed / changes when we adapted from pre village/town/city to post town/village/city. How did consciousness change for the mediterranean peoples during that period from 15,000 years ago to 8000 years ago? Did our structures etc in society have a major influence on our consciousness?

  • djwray Jun 06, 2011

    The biggest mysteries of human consciousness will be solved when mental illnesses are properly understood. Understanding the problems will reveal an understanding of the system, including qualia, the Self, information processing, language, meaning, awareness, spirituality, intuition, memory and so on.

    "Experience without theory is blind, but theory without experience is mere intellectual play." - Immanuel Kant

    - D J Wray

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    manuga Jun 03, 2011

    One of the mysteries and great tool of conciousness is the power of perceiving and understanding things without going through a rational mind process.
    For instance if you ask yourself a question without trying to find out straight away its answers, you ll experiment sooner or later an
    idea or thought in response to your question. What's magic is that, instead of having to deal with all possilbe answers that the mind would have offered you, you ll receive the must unexpected but suitable one!!! You feel that is the one you were seeking for!

    I take this opportunity to say a HUGE THANK to all IONS team,)))))

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    JenniferWarters May 24, 2011

    According to esoteric belief, human consciousness is transmitted through a complex interconnecting web. In Rainbow Light Foundation, our teaching at The Academy of Spiritual Sciences is based on the belief that multidimensional structures are in place and subtle energy is stepped down through the vibrational layers of the etheric, mental and emotional fields to connect ultimately with the brain and the physical body via the endocrine system.

  • Jake44 May 22, 2011

    As a dear friend recently sent me in an e-mail "quote from Marianne Williamson (which some people mistakenly attribute to Nelson Mandela.) "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us." It's taken from her book, "A Return to Love: Reflections on the Principles of a Course in Miracles."

    Our power is beyond any that you could imagine. We humans through our evolution (or beter stated "de-evolution") have lost the abilities that we have through consciousness. We are infinite beings with infinite powers. We just have to dig deep within to find them and re-learn what over eons of time have been forgotten.

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    Dathan May 20, 2011

    I think the biggest mystery of human consciousness is the source of psychokinetic power and whether we can increase it exponentially. If a mental mapping of reality can be molded to our perception, then what are its limits?

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    jlizarraga64 May 20, 2011

    I believe that the biggest mystery of our consciousness is how all of our consciousness interact together to create, to transform.I kind of understand that we all (global, sometimes world wide) think about one certain thing, because of the news media and we all talk and think about one thing.
    But how we all interact to sometimes move the World towards a direction that is not the logical path but the path we are all thinking.

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    wbilly3814 May 13, 2011

    I have had multiple medically documented Near Death Experiences, brought on by a condition related to Prolonged QT Syndrome. I have written about these in a book Eight Years Four Months at Amazon. For IONS people, if you're willing to write a review on the Amazon page, good or bad, I can email you a pdf or ebook copy for free.

    I'm at wbilly3814@yahoo.com

    just put Eight Years Four Months in the message.


  • YARAru May 10, 2011

    "I have a question .When you look at a mirror you see an image of your won and at that time you thought about some thing, like an apple. are you confirm that your mirror image is thinking an apple? If it is write so how can you explain it? or wrong. so what is going on?
    I think the phenomenon is wrong.Because you and your image is not same.So Consciousness of this two are not equal.I think it is a hardcore QUANTUM MECHANICAL phenomenon."

    When you look in the mirror, while in an altered state of consciousness, you can follow any responses to see a stranger in the reflection, and to perceive otrozhenie as an autonomous adult One unit.
    As it is explained to you can follow any responses?

    (sorry for my bad english)


  • YARAru May 10, 2011

    I believe that consciousness is not the product of brain activity.
    The brain is like a radio that can tune chemically.
    Consciousness is energy pulses which picks up the brain and relays.

    (Sorry for my bad English)


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    mindbreak May 10, 2011

    I have a question .When you look at a mirror you see an image of your won and at that time you thought about some thing, like an apple. are you confirm that your mirror image is thinking an apple? If it is write so how can you explain it? or wrong. so what is going on?
    I think the phenomenon is wrong.Because you and your image is not same.So Consciousness of this two are not equal.I think it is a hardcore QUANTUM MECHANICAL phenomenon.

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    mindbreak May 10, 2011

    I think consciousness is a particular type of chemical reaction.

  • Jake44 May 04, 2011

    There is much debate or perhaps the greatest mystery facing science today: the nature of consciousness and the mind. The problem is rather simple to describe but the difficulty is in the understanding of just how consciousness functions. Within the philosophical arena it has been described “the mind-body problem” and has been the center of many philosophical debates for thousands of years. It is only in recent times that it has become of interest to science.

    This problem of consciousness has befuddled philosophers, psychologists and scientists throughout the ages. David Chalmers, an Australian philosopher, has summarized it exceptionally well, “the Conscious Mind” (1996) “Consciousness poses the most baffling problems in the science of mind. There is nothing that we know more intimately than conscious experience, but there is nothing that is harder to explain.” In his book he has called this the “hard problem” of consciousness. On the other hand, there is the “easy problem” of understanding the way in which the brain deals with various sets of information that it receives.

    Consciousness: The Having of perceptions, thoughts, and feelings: awareness. The term is impossible to define except in terms that are unintelligible without a grasp of what consciousness means. Many fall into the trap of confusing consciousness with self-consciousness-to be conscious it is only necessary to be aware of the external world. Consciousness is a fascinating but elusive phenomenon: It is impossible to specify what it is, or what it does, or why it evolved. Nothing worth reading has been written about it. (Sutherland 1989) .

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    morrisha May 01, 2011

    The biggest mystery is to properly specify what consciousness is. Saying that it is a collection of cognitive information processes misses the fundamental intentional nature of it and its root in individual identity. Its a bit like trying to describe snow when you have only every lived in the sahara desert. Language is too blunt a tool to describe it. However, if you are comfortable with math, or music, or visual art, or emotions then the "experience" of "it" becomes meaningful. although difficult to describe in words.

    The word "experience" anchors the individual with an external universe, accessed by the senses and his cognition. The cognition produces experience objects, and experience objects float in an ocean of consciousness. As some experience objects are shared, so too is the ocean.

    Experience objects have parameters and some of these parameters are physical. Some physical parameters correspond isomorphically with activation states of neurons in the brain. Therefore, neuronal states as viewed within MRI's are a tool for understanding consciousness and what it is. [there's probably some math for this!!] Additionally, since matter (the external universe) has parameters visible at the quantum level, this too has some math associated with it.

    The mathmatics of consciousness need to be known before other barriers to its understanding can be breached.

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    DougWilson Apr 29, 2011

    If consciousness, whatever it is, has content, that content would be different depending on the focus point of the "conscious" observer. For myself, the practical content (content I can make use of today), is "What I've seen". What I think (best guess) the content of consciousness will turn out to be is everything that is.

  • DyckDyck Apr 28, 2011

    What is the Content of consciousness?

    It isn't logical that we could inquire or speak of consciousness as tho it has only one meaning, when it could be an action, a container, or contents. What do we assume in the word consciousness in the question?

    It isn't a new idea that the content of consciousness is solely thought. And thought is or is of memory, which is of course past/old/dead.

    But, if Consciousness (as put in the Question) was the vessel I could see it having latent potential perhaps without limit.

    I relish other perspectives and anyone who wants to engage deeper.

  • frequencytuner Apr 27, 2011

    Why do we keep asking these questions?

    It is like trying to catch air in a fishing net, we know this but still insist on trying to 'figure it out'.

  • CliffSkater Apr 25, 2011

    I have seen very little qualified research into the so called Kundalini phenomenon. I have my own theories based on the experience shared on my profile. (click on my name to read) There are a lot of kooky stories about it ranging from rocket ships to a strange tingling feelings. Many feel it's a badge of spritual accomplishment and state they are fully empowered by it...I have my doubts.

    How could you reach the pearl by only looking at the sea? If you seek the pearl, be a diver. ~Rumi

  • DyckDyck Apr 16, 2011

    It matters not what history reveals, as it only holds us to old illusions... proven, popular, self-evident, convenient, observed, what have you.

    Water does not appear to have the capability to analyze itself.

    What my imagination has appears to me as unfoldment of the infinite. And the infinite cannot be apprehended by the finite.

  • DoctorA Apr 13, 2011

    Consciosness is con-science, common knowledge with others, with God.
    It is the essence that makes an animal of complex behavior to become a human.
    Consciosness is the ability to see (reflect) and control the inner world (the internal copy of the outside world and our reactions to it).
    Human consciousness looks upon this copy of world the same way as God looks at our real world.
    That is why a man is an image, a reflection of God.
    It is the consciousness that is in common between God and man. In that sence man is half an animal and half a God.
    The name of consciosness "I am" is the same as the name of God according the Bible "I am Iam" ("Ehyeh asher ehyeh" Exodus 3:14)
    This unearthy ability added to human natural needs for learning and control, supernatural needs for creativity and ethernity, that created religion (re-ligo, re-union) - the need to re-connect with the Creator, with the source of Knowledge.
    The meditation is the practice of intentional growth of ability to unemotionally reflect yourself. It is the natural way to cultivate consciousness. That is why it is the most natural religion.
    I will be glad to answer to the questions.

  • Heidi Fuller Apr 13, 2011

    There's science and there's belief. On the one hand, they have little to do with each other. On the other hand, everything. They demand autonomy, yet they are intertwined in motivation and outcome. Highly recommended for the discussion on energy and consciousness is this recording of last week's teleseminar with Dean Radin and Christian de Quincey: http://bit.ly/edOhlR.

  • slowlygetnthar Apr 13, 2011

    To me, the biggest mystery is the ORIGIN OF CONSCIOUSNESS. How did this consciousness occur, on this planet? Is consciousness inherent in the Universe?

    If consciousness is inherent in the universe, then, is there really anything in the universe that does not have consciousness?

    If we start believing that everything has consciousness, then, will we behave better? will we think differently? will we be more compassionate?

    Especially in light of the possibility of multi-dimensional universe, if we suddenly have a paradigm shift where we see that everything has consciousness, will our understanding have evolved so that we have a new and different universe? and not just a paradigm shift?...just wondering...

  • Theoldman Apr 13, 2011

    The singular and greatest mystery of human consciousness is also the basis of all philosophy and religion. IS THERE CONSCIOUSNESS BEYOND DEATH. Every culture on the surface of this planet, back to the ancient cave paintings of Northern France, inscribed their perception of this question! At the age of 17 I was driving to a remote logging camp in the winter. The day was one of those magical snow falls, with large slow moving puffy snowflakes; the road I was on was not much more than a single lane logging road with about 7 inches of the fresh fluffy snow ahead with no tracks. I turned a corner and ahead of me was a group of people - Natives - men, women and children, three dogs that looked like huskies, each with a yoke style sled pulling supplies. I stopped the car, shut of the engine and gazed through my windshield. The group was crossing the road in front of me, gracefully moving as one group, they slowed and looked in my direction, then turned together and continued to move off into the forest. I was Irish borne and in awe - I never thought Indians were still out here living as they had before Europeans arrived. I got out of the car and walked up to the point they had crossed the road, and stood there as they faded into the snowy distance. The last of the group turned and looked at me one more time and then he too faded into the background of snow. I was dumbfounded - alone - and the world seemed to have stopped turning. It was then I looked down and saw my foot prints from my car - they were the only tracks on the undisturbed pure blanket of snow. I thought I was stunned by the previous revelation of Natives in the wilderness - but now something else arrived in my consciousness - a very deep sense of calm - and through this observation - a realization and removal of primal fear - of death. How odd the gift of life for some can only be realized in death - and for me the greatest question of humanity had been answered with and affirmative yes. Consciousness continues - not the question - and life seems so much more. I learned in that moment of EXPERIENCE the origin of all religions, philosophy, and the mechanics of gross political manipulation of the people on this planet - through the imposition of "THE LIE" by church and state concerning - THE FEAR OF DEATH. You have heard of the book and movie called the Secret - well it would have been better if we called it "The Lie."

  • Mindlink0 Apr 13, 2011

    When I was studying for a degree in applied science, I was taught to use whatever belief system works for me in the moment, but to always be open and receptive to different theories, opinions and approximations which might work for me better. A state of consciousness is not a belief system; it is an experience which cannot be adequately described by any spoken or written language, including mathematics. “Happiness” is not a belief system; it is an experience. There are probably as many definitions of “happiness” as there are people who have ever used the word. We don’t have any gadgets for detecting or measuring “happiness”, but that doesn’t stop us from experiencing “happiness” and influencing others with our “happiness”. A technique which I have found for enhancing the frequency and amplitude of my “happiness” experiences is to be open and receptive.

    Robert Radford

  • frequencytuner Apr 12, 2011

    It could be said that the word 'belief' has been misunderstood. Consciousness is like Yin, the carrier and Energy is like Yang. We experience the energy contained within the Consciousness. What some call belief translates to truth that cannot be seen with the eyes but is more real what the eyes appear to see, measure and observe. A mystery is something reserved or restricted to the 'mystic', or the third eye. It is occult, or veiled by being hidden in plain sight but not looked for - ask and receive.

  • frequencytuner Apr 12, 2011

    It could be said that the word 'belief' has been misunderstood. Consciousness is like Yin, the carrier and Energy is like Yang. We experience the energy contained within the Consciousness. What some call belief translates to truth that cannot be seen with the eyes but is more real what the eyes appear to see, measure and observe. A mystery is something reserved or restricted to the 'mystic', or the third eye. It is occult, or veiled by being hidden in plain sight but not looked for - ask and receive.

    Think of our sensational, physical, material, carbon based experiences as based in a frequency spectrum - Electromagnetic. What lies beyond this

  • Heidi Fuller Apr 12, 2011

    Prophetes has an insight I hadn't considered before quite the way it is expressed - that human consciousness can hold belief about which cannot be proven real is the biggest mystery of the human brain. . . I hadn't quite considered it such a weighty achievement before, probably because it is so easy to do. I agree that the finer details that distinguish consciousness from energy seem to have a missing thread - something that more easily defines the way both relate yet are distinct. . . if they indeed are. That's where it seems to elude us most. . . that and then along comes information as a possible medium for all of this. . .

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    hemantprana Apr 11, 2011

    Hey marcusantonio91, Don't worry there has to be some more to life than one lifetime. Your essence will be there even when you are not.

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    hemantprana Apr 11, 2011

    The Universe has a consciousness too which can be termed as “Collective Consciousness” of all beings dead , alive , good souls , bad souls, master souls, the Supreme Soul, etc.
    This collective consciousness is like internet or rather shareware and stores everything that you need to know about anything at all. It’s because even GOD or Supreme Soul is a part of this network.
    Now your brain which is your personal hardware to connect to this network is always in touch with this and is downloading useful information from it which is required to survive. This information exchange can happen involuntarily also but is restricted to minimal info that is required for your survival and survival of others related or connected to you.
    But there are special ways of tapping into this consciousness by meditation or even when we sleep we are connected to this Collective consciousness. The more you learn to command your brain (or your thoughts), the more successfully you will be able to tap into this. But rest assured everything you need to know about anything is available to you. You just need to learn how to get that info.
    That’s why so many people over the ages, from all religions have been constantly repeating that you need to believe to make anything happen. Actually what they mean is that if you really believe that you can fly and you give a command to your brain that you need to fly, your brain will get information about how you can fly form that collective pool.
    Please don’t attempt to fly, I was just giving an example 
    But seriously how many of you have experienced the following. You are really stuck in some problem, say a mathematical problem that you need to understand and you have no clue how to solve it. You sleep with that in your mind and next day its solution is crystal clear to you.

  • Mindlink0 Apr 09, 2011

    Some of us visualize different states of consciousness as concentric spheres, each greater state embracing, but not replacing the lesser states. All states of consciousness of which we are aware coexist, giving us a choice of perspectives from which to view our current understanding of reality. A lesser state of consciousness could be a realization that we are all linked together, continuously exchanging information between our unique selves; then might come the realization that we are all one being – a consciousness of the oneness of all; then might come the realization that I am in God and God is in me – I and God are one. Some of us have realized a state of consciousness without an object and without a subject – there is no me and there is no God – there is no duality -- there just IS. Each greater state of consciousness reveals the probability of even greater states yet to be realized. They are the mysteries of consciousness.

    A quotation attributed to Albert Einstein is, “Space and time are modes of thinking, not conditions of being.” Some of the quantum physics theories suggest that the universe is an undivided whole in a perpetual state of dynamic flux. Some modern scientists suggest that we are subjected to 200 billion changes every second of our lives. The only constant is change, and the only reality is the probability of change. In the few milliseconds that it takes our brain/mind to bring an event to our awareness, the event is ancient history. Our physical awareness is only of memories of conditions that existed billions of changes ago. And, as our computers have demonstrated, memories that were created five years ago are as equally accessible as memories that were created five minutes ago. Memories are timeless; our physical reality, being only in memories, is therefore timeless. We may associate with a memory the position of our Earth relative to our Sun (a date and time) but all memories are of the past and are equally accessible – are timeless.

    Those of us who are aware of the probabilities of change find that we can influence those probabilities and can make some pretty good guesses about future events which may probably occur.

    This type of thinking has given me the ability to create a life filled with a sense of peace, happiness and fulfillment. Try it; I think you’ll like it.

    Robert Radford

  • Sammi Law Apr 09, 2011

    Thinking about a mysterious aspect of human consciousness.

    Well, it is a little hard to get outside the box if I say I am thinking about the mystery.

    As it has come to be understood among many of said containers, "It is only possible to think about something past or something possibly coming."

    I venture to guess, the mystery is here.

    So, if the space of the mystery is shared, evades thinking, then the mystery can present no baffling befuddlement; and be experienced from the inside out.

    It is all that outside in stuff that gets confusing; and wouldn't you agree it is easy to call confusion mysterious?

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    mafonga2 Apr 08, 2011

    Once I stopped taking responsibility for being the inventor, and started seeing myself as someone letting some truth or knowledge come through me, my art got much more authentic and much more powerful, and, apparently paradoxically, i feel much more creative.
    This is what has led me to believe that consciousness exist somewhere else, not in my individual body. I am tapping into something vast, not personally creating anything.
    So I am not so nervous about death anymore.
    And i find intuition getting more and more reliable and useful in my life.
    Looking at the quantum/conciousness hypotheses I am struck today by one particular question. In this "macro" world how is it that the human eye can actually detect a single photon, and why? It seems to me there is something important here. That one place where we can SEE that we react to a quantum event.....the place where the veil is very thin.

  • Gary Scott Apr 08, 2011

    After listening to Dean Radin and Dr. Christian de Quincy last night, I find myself still with the same questions.
    1> The possibility that a computer and the internet have consciousness was interesting but as I see it, if I unplug the computer from the power source and never plug it in again then the consciousness is gone yet when I unplug or die my consciousness lives on.
    2> If Consciousness and Energy need each other to exist and if energy requires movement to be energy then it stands to reason that consciousness was required to create the energy in the first place.
    And finally
    3> I see the word "Belief" being used by people who seem to profess "unlimited potential" within their lives, when the word belief implies a set of boundaries have been already been established (this one is just a pet peeve of mine).

  • PonsAnimus Apr 08, 2011

    For me the biggest mystery about our consciousness is, that we are obviously able to "imagine" things beyond our 5 sences. May that be the mathematical way of looking at 10+ dimentions, M-string theory or may it just be the believe in a divine force. This way of creating theories beyond the current reality is obviously boon and bane at he same time.
    Our 5 sences need impulses to react, like photons for the eyes and sound waves for the ears etc. and our database (brain) reacts according to the saved "templates". This might be an emotion, feeling or just to plan the next step on the street. ;) BUT what kind of impulse leads us to go beyond that what we need to survive ? Is it an ancient consciousness burried in our gen pool ? Or is it more dependend on a constant flow of impulses given by the universe and sent out for all those beings with an aperiodic antenna ? We are able to paint a picture without any obvious relation to reality, why ? All this can only happen, if you are able to: >>Let your mind fly and feel its borderless nature<<.

  • Abhijith Apr 08, 2011

    As Coelho exclaimed in his book "The Alchemist" , 'Listen to your heart, it says to you whatever you need to know...' that's experienced many times...
    How does the Premonitions came into being..
    For me ,
    "What you believe is less important than , How much you believe?"

  • Abhijith Apr 08, 2011

    The one that had always startled me is how does ones conscious, which is considered to be an unseen, untouched, unanalyzed being, able to influence something materialistic on the outside? Of course there are proofs for this influences from variety of researches here at ions, BUT STILL ITS A MYSTERY, AND THE QUESTION IS HOW? AND WHY?

  • marcusantonio91 Apr 08, 2011

    I find it very hard to picture life after death (seperate conciousness), I once had a lot to drink and lost all recollection of a night and it made me terrified of death, I feel my existence is ponitless and meaningless and that conciousness is localised to the brain and when I die that's it. I don't want it to be true but it is sometimes how I feel, plus if conciousness is seperate, why are people mentally ill, why when we drink a lot is our conciousness distorted, when we sleep, we blink one moment and the next we are awake. I hope someone can help me out here and maybe offer me some comfort because at the moment I feel incredibly low, and pessismistic about life

  • charliet Apr 08, 2011

    To me our brain is like a remote computer, we download and upload from the source that is all. Conciousness is not part of this plain, it exist in the place that is the source of all. Our experiences and memories are ours and also part of the all that is. We seem to be at different levels of conciousness, young souls and old souls. We have to learn and earn the right to access higher levels of conciousness. When we pass from this earth our brain dies and no longer exists, our conciousness, experiences and memories do not pass out of existance, they are at the source of all, the main computer so to speak, we too are there in our real form, whatever that may be, we have access to all that we have learned and earned. Do we return to this plain of existance or to others to learn and experience more, that is another question.

  • frequencytuner Apr 06, 2011

    This is simply because we cannot understanding that "real" is dual natured by nature for it to even exist in the first place, thus can only be understood through the marriage of the opposing natures into harmony. Unite the seen and known with the unseen and unknown and know that you can never 'know' the way you might be trying to 'know' what I mean.

  • Prophetes Apr 06, 2011

    The most interesting aspect of human consciousness is the way that we distinguish what is "real". Tibetan monks, Hindu spiritual teachers, and even today's Christian leaders can all agree that their spiritual views revolve around how humans see the world, and what we consider to be true.

    Faith is one of the major ways that the human mind comprehends the real world; having faith in something that you cannot feel, see, or touch is a way that each and every human distinguishes the difference between the "fake" beliefs of others, and their own personal truth.

    We still do not understand exactly how and why humans have such unbelievable beliefs in what we can't prove is real, and that is why the human conscious's ability to give us belief these things is the biggest mystery of the human brain.

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